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Ide / orfe

Leuciscus idus
French name : Ide mélanote

The ide, or orfe, is a large cyprinid of the family Cyprinidae, native to rivers and lakes across northern Europe and Asia. The wild form is silvery with a dark back, while the popular golden orfe bred for ponds is a bright orange-yellow. It is a sleek, fast, surface-oriented shoaling fish. It is peaceful toward similarly sized fish but is an active predator of insects and smaller fish, and its need for a large shoal and long swimming runs makes it unsuitable for aquariums. This is essentially a coldwater pond fish requiring a large, well-oxygenated pond with plenty of open water; it is sensitive to low oxygen and to some pond treatments. It is a carnivore-leaning omnivore that surface-feeds avidly on insects and takes floating pellets and live foods. It should be kept in groups of several, as lone individuals become stressed and reclusive.

Water
Freshwater
Origin
Rivers and lakes, northern Europe and Asia
Adult size
75 cm
Diet
Omnivore
Temperament
Peaceful
Difficulty
Intermediate
Keep in group of
5+
Ide / orfe (Leuciscus idus)
Illustration

Water parameters

Temperature4 – 24 °C
pH6.5 – 8
Carbonate hardness (KH)5 – 20 °dKH
General hardness (GH)8 – 25 °dGH

Tank & stocking

Minimum tank volume4500 L
Volume budget per individual 200 L — adds up with tank-mates
Minimum group size5 individuals (shoaling)

“Minimum tank volume” is a reasonable floor, not an absolute limit. The per-individual budget is used by the Aqua app to estimate how heavily a tank is stocked.

Frequently asked questions

What size aquarium does Ide / orfe need?

Provide at least 4500 litres for a small group to keep Ide / orfe in good conditions.

What water parameters does Ide / orfe need?

A temperature of 4–24 °C, pH 6.5–8.

Is Ide / orfe peaceful or aggressive?

Its temperament is peaceful.

What does Ide / orfe eat?

Its diet: omnivore.

How many Ide / orfe should be kept together?

It is a social species: keep a group of at least 5.

How big does Ide / orfe get?

Around 75 cm as an adult.

Is Ide / orfe suitable for beginners?

Care level: intermediate.

Planning a tank with Ide / orfe?

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